from the Design Observer: Michael Bierut + Jessica Helfand Inside the Lines

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I really recommend having a listen:

http://designobserver.com/feature/inside-the-lines/38866#

This is a great talk between 2 very informed graphic design specialists. Jessica Helfand being a graphic designer and founding editor of the Design Observer ( a must for anyone interested in design).

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